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A Climate Conversation Podcast Episode 10 with James Kamis





A Climate Conversation Podcast Episode 10: “Plate Climatology” with James Kamis

June 14, 2024

Hosts: Kim Monson & Dave O’Rourke

Guests: James Kamis  and Walter E. Johnson, Geophysicist and Executive Producer of the documentary A Climate Conversation


A Climate Conversation Podcast 

Welcome to our podcast in support of A Climate Conversation, a documentary that seeks to foster an honest dialogue on climate change—its causes, its impact, and a science-based cost/benefit analysis of its potential solutions.


In previous podcasts, we have explored the possibility that anthropogenic causes may not fully explain temperature rises. The sun, the oceans, the Earth's eccentric orbit, and naturally occurring greenhouse gases, like water vapor, methane, and nitrous oxide, all influence our climate. The Earth is, without doubt, a large, diverse, and complex ecosystem. 


In this podcast, we will hear about another element of that ecosystem, one that has the power not only to affect the climate but to shape the oceans and continents, the dynamic and ever-changing Earth’s crust. The study and science of the Earth’s surface is called plate tectonics. The Plate Climatology Theory explains observed natural phenomena and is built on the premise that there is a strong connection between geology and climate. The theory is intended to promote interaction between many branches of science, primarily geology, climatology, meteorology, biology, and oceanography.


James Edward Kamis is a Geologist and AAPG member of 41 years and who has always been fascinated by the connection between Geology and Climate. Years of research and observation have convinced him that the Earth’s Heat Flow Engine, which drives the outer crustal plates, is also an important driver of the Earth’s climate. 


He received a BS in Geology from Northern Illinois University in 1973 and an MS in Geology from Idaho State University in 1976.  He is proud to have worked for mining and oil companies that practiced responsible harvesting of materials necessary to sustain human life. James has developed the Plate  Climatology Theory entirely on his own non-working hour time and with no funding from any other entity.


Trent is joined by Walt Johsnon, brainchild and executive producer of A Climate Conversation. Another son of the West, Walt, is a geophysicist and fifth-generation Coloradan and is keenly interested in bringing realism and the scientific method to the debate about climate. Walt is particularly interested in bringing the scientific method to the discussion about human-caused climate change, it’s potential impact and proposed solutions.  


Podcast overarching theme:  “Dynamic plate activity has a major impact on climate.” Along with the sun, the oceans, naturally occurring greenhouse gasses, and eccentricities in the Earth’s orbit, subsurface dynamics have had a massive impact on the Earth’s climate and explain a number of observed phenomena, including melting polar ice and El Nino/La Nina cycles.  


A number of topics will  be covered in this podcast, including:


  • The causes of climate change have not been fully examined, and plate tectonics may have a major impact

  • Oceans covers 71% of the Eaerh’s surface at an average depth of 7,000 feet. Only a small part of the ocean floor has been examined in detail.

  • Surveys that have been conducted indicate that there may be millions of plate features on the ocean floor 

  • Remoteness and expense have made plate oceanography difficult

  • Interpretation bias has led to false conclusions about the cause of ice melting in Antarctica

  • There are plausible alternative explanations for climate phenomena that should be explored using the scientific method

  • Evidence indicates that the widely held belief in a single event cursing the extinction of dinosaurs is unsupported by the fossil record 

  • A river similar in size and scope to the Mississippi exists under Greenland


We hear that “the science is settled,” but this podcast will dispel that canard. The science of climate is anything but settled, and models used by the UN IPCC continue to prove deeply flawed. Before engaging in a multi-hundred trillion dollar energy transition, we should make sure the costs and benefits are much better understood. 


Learn more about James Kamis and The Plate Climatology theory.




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